Radio update and what’s up in ministry

Radio update and what’s up in ministry

It’s time for an update especially since I have been so busy that I haven’t been able to post much for awhile.

[Updated] First of all regarding the Boise Idaho radio station that will be broadcasting the audio version of my 4 DVD set “Women in Ministry Silenced or Set Free?”, the radio station has confirmed the following dates and times [all times are Mountain time – for Eastern time add 2 hours]:

KBXL 94.1 FM

  • Saturday March 8, 2008 at 12 noon – segment one
  • Saturday March 15, 2008 at 12 noon – segment two
  • Saturday March 22, 2008 at 12 noon – segment three
  • Saturday March 29, 2008 at 12 noon – segment four


  • Saturday March 8, 2008 at 4 pm – segment one
  • Saturday March 15, 2008 at 4 pm – segment two
  • Saturday March 22, 2008 at 4 pm – segment three
  • Saturday March 29, 2008 at 4 pm – segment four

The programs can be listened to live at Go to the top right hand corner for the live audio feed.

For those who haven’t been following my blog, the radio spots are free air time that I have been given because Matt Slick of “Faith and Reason” has been misrepresenting me and my teaching for months now and in December he made some very untrue statements that went far past the place of a Christian apologist. In fairness to me, the radio station that hosts Matt Slick’s program has agreed that it is only fair to present the opposing view in an honest and fair way so that the misrepresentation will be put to rest.

Secondly on an update on our ministry, there has been a type of closure on our fight with the Canadian government – a fight to have the freedom to preach the gospel to the lost souls in the cults. While it may appear to be a defeat, we believe very strongly that God has orchestrated the recent happenings so that we have actually expanded our vision past what our comfort zone has been.

Briefly, here are the things that have happened to this point. In 2007 there was a complaint to the Charities division of the government of Canada against the work that we do as a ministry. Our ministry is called MacGregor Ministries (MM Outreach for short and to represent the joining together of MacGregor Ministries and Media Ministries). The complaint resulted in an audit in June of 2007. While our books were fine, it was determined that there was a question about our qualification as a Charity since the majority of our gospel preaching focuses on the topic of the cults. Not only do we actively reach out to those who have lost their way in the cults but we also teach Christians how to reach Jehovah’s Witnesses and others in different cults and bring them to faith in Christ. This has been deemed as “uncharitable” by the Canadian government representative who took over our case from the original auditor.

We did retain a lawyer to help fight our case but there was not much we could do as the government agent was determined to shut down our ministry and squash our work with the cults. In the end we were given an ultimatum that our web site was to be “gone”, our products geared to reaching those in the cults for Christ were to be “gone”, we were to stop writing material on the cults and stop doing “persuasive” biblical teaching on DVD and finally that we were to treat all religions as equal in value with no teaching to be done as “persuasive”. This is completely unacceptable to us and would compromise our Christian faith. The only options available to us would be to shut down our own ministry and ask the Canadian government to de-register us or do nothing and wait until they come and get us and forcibly de-register the Charity themselves. We chose to be proactive and send in our letter voluntarily de-registering the Charity under protest.

The effects of de-registering the Charity is the same as having the government do this to us. In closing the Charity, it involves a 100% tax by the government. We had to dig deep into our savings to purchase our own editing equipment at fair market value and purchase our own stock of products at fair market value. The money generated by this “sale” along with the money we had saved up to build a state-of-the-art video/movie studio will either be confiscated by the government or we can give it away to a government approved charity. Everything that we have worked so hard for as volunteers for years (the MacGregor’s have put in 30 years of ministry and we have been working as volunteers in ministry since 1988) will be gone except for what we are able to purchase back (again!) with our own money.

So how is this a good thing? Well it has pushed us to go beyond our comfort zone and to look to the Lord and his call to us in ministry. The government of Canada is not the one who called us into ministry and the government of Canada cannot take us out of ministry. This has pushed us to take a step of faith that without this push from the threat of de-registration, we would never have stepped out in faith. We have with the support of a dear US friend, started a US corporation dedicated to continue on the ministry of preaching the gospel to those lost in the cults and this will be based in the US. We also have a Canadian corporation in place to do the work in Canada. This Canadian corporation will be a taxable corporation and while we will no longer be able to give tax receipts in Canada, we will have something that is very precious – that is free speech and freedom to preach the gospel with power in order to benefit those whom the church has long ignored.

The government agent responsible for trying to shut us down told us that there is no such thing as free speech while operating as a registered Canadian charity, yet praise God we are now free to preach the gospel without government intervention and we are working on expanding our ministry base directly into the US. We do not know how all of this will work out financially since we do not as yet have tax exempt status in the US, but we are confident that the Lord Jesus will fulfill his promise to us to bless our efforts and he is the one responsible for taking care of all the details.

All of these changes has been very time consuming for me. While I should be nose to the grindstone on our newest DVD project on the subject of the Trinity, I have been waylaid by the immediate need to switch our web site over to reflect our product ordering pages to the new US corporation so that any product sold from now on will go directly into the account of MM Outreach in the US and will enable us to start getting some income in order to purchase the rest of our stock.

For those of you who haven’t been on our product pages to see where my DVD is sold along with other materials that are used to reach out into the world of the cults and aberrant Christian movements, now would be a good time to visit. Any proceeds from the sale of our products will go directly into helping our ministry to move forward. Click here for our DVD ordering page and there are other product pages that can be accessed from this page. I do not yet have the Canadian & Overseas links working yet as it is very labor intensive. Hopefully this will be done by sometime this coming week, Lord willing.

While we may not understand how the Lord is going to work all of this out, we do trust him that what was meant for our harm, God is going to use for his own glory. Praise the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!

I do still intend to do a post on circumcision and how this “sign” is meaningful to the issue of women in ministry, but right now this post is having to take a back seat until I get the most important things done first. Please keep our ministry in prayer as we go past one hurdle after another. We are trusting in God, but you can also join with us in the prayer of faith. Also pray for me for my work on the Trinity DVD script. All of the changes in ministry have come at a time that I should be coming to the end of my research and writing and I am way behind schedule. The filming is scheduled to take place by the end of April to keep us on schedule so I could use some prayer too to keep me focused and on schedule.

So now you know why I have been distracted and largely unavailable. I am so glad that you guys have carried on without me 🙂 I really love the community that comes and visits on this blog. For those of you who haven’t received an email answer from me for sometime, I won’t be able to catch up too quickly. I have the rest of the product pages to update and then some catchup work on the Trinity DVD. I will try to pay as much attention as I can to my blog, but if I am somewhat spaced out, at least you now know why ’cause y’all now know the “rest of the story”.

17 thoughts on “Radio update and what’s up in ministry

  1. Cheryl, I commend you for your cheerful faithfulness in the face of adversity like this one. You are such a wonderful example of courage and perseverance! May God richly bless you for your faithfulness.

  2. Your ministry is in my prayers. I agree with you that this could be the best thing to happen in the long run. But I do foresee the day that we may face the exact same challenges in the US over tax exemption for ministries. But nothing will stop our Sovereign God from His truth being preached to the nations

  3. I am praying for you and your ministry, Cheryl. Your ministry is a much-needed beacon of light!

  4. Light,
    Thank you for your encouragement! It is the peace of God that comes down and surrounds us during times like this. We should feel very sad, but there is so much work to be done for the Lord that there is no time to feel sad.

    Lin, Greg, Psalmist, Truthseeker, Thank you for your prayers! We want to continue to fight the good fight but there are times that I lose sleep and wonder what the future holds for us. If you could prayer for continued boldness and for the Lord’s help in redeeming the limited time I have, that would be very, very helpful to me!

  5. Hi folks,
    I got an email today from Pastor Frank Campos in California and I found it so encouraging that I thought I would pass it on. It is an encouragement to stay the course and how trials are really meant to be an opportunity. Frank’s letter below:

    “We will be in prayer over this circumstance. However, what a privilege to be in this place. The Lord has counted you worthy of the suffering. “Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.”

    I hope to bring you encouragement sister. This is not about the ministry as much as it is about you, yourself. Trials do not mean resign. It means opportunity to enter into the sufferings of Christ. Paul said of himself, “to know Him in His sufferings.” Trials don’t produce faith, but when trials are received with faith, the outcome is patience. If difficulties are received in unbelief and grumbling, trials can produce bitterness and discouragement. This is why James exhorts us to “Count it all a joy” is faith’s response to a time of trial.

    Sister Cheryl, we will stand with you in this time. Please count on our prayers and faithfulness to this. Nothing is ever lost in Jesus’ hands.

    Always in Him,

  6. There was a prophecy made last year about food coming from Canada being ‘shipped’ to the US…

    How exciting! 🙂

  7. Okay, more news to share with you all. I got a call this morning from the Frank Pastore radio show and they want to interview Richard and I on their Friday afternoon radio show at 4:25 broadcasting from Los Angeles, California regarding what has happened to our ministry here in Canada. The web site for Frank Pastore is I spoke to a fellow named Patrick and he said that Frank’s show on KKLA 99.5 is the top call-in show in LA. This an amazing opportunity to not only share what has been going on here in Canada (and what may come soon to the USA) but also an introduction to our ministry to many people who have probably never heard of us before. Praise the Lord!

  8. Thanks Cheryl! I’d love to post it! Here it is!

    Vision: The Flying Ship

    28th April 2007

    A few days ago, as I prayed, I saw this vision.

    There was a famine of the Word in America. There was no choice food anywhere in America. People were consuming very poor quality food.

    They were eating food that looked like the half-chewed food thrown into dustbins.

    There was no nutritious food anywhere to be found. The food people ate barely helped them survive. It was a pitiable sight. Wherever I looked, within this vision, in America, all I saw was people eating very poor quality food.

    I despaired. Where is the food? I thought. If things continued this way, I saw that the people would die of mal-nourishment.

    It was truly a most pitiable sight.

    I saw many ships from around the world, heading towards America with food. It seemed like they would take a while to reach the American shores.

    But then I saw a HUGE Ship, which emerged from the sky. It had overtaken all the ships in the sea. It was leaping over the American skies. Many looked up and saw it. They knew that the Ship carried fresh food supplies. The ENTIRE SHIP WAS FILLED WITH RICH FOOD.

    These in America, who looked up and saw the Ship, expected it to land in America.

    I too thought within the vision, that this Ship would land in America.

    I was sure that God had Seen the condition of the people, how they were eating left-overs from dustbins, and other value-less, unhealthy, lacking-in-nourishment-food.

    The Ship most definitely looked like it was heading America-ward.The people who were looking up, saw the Huge Ship whizz past, over them. They despaired that the Ship had not landed on American soil. The Ship had simply whizzed past, over them.

    Much to my amazement, I saw that the SHIP FLEW OVER ALL THE LAND OF AMERICA AND LANDED IN CANADA.

    The food was off-loaded here, and the rich, nourishing food would be sent to America, by God’s Chosen, IN CANADA. Those commissioned by the Lord, already knew this and met the Ship, which landed not in the sea, but on land. Immediately those commissioned of the Lord were at the work of sorting out the food, to send on-ward to America. Within the vision, I saw these worked non-stop, speedily and diligently, and did not lose focus.

    The food on this Ship was solely for America, but it was those Chosen of God IN CANADA, who would send it forth to America.

    What I understood is that this refers to THE TRUE NOURISHING, RESUSCITATING FOOD that the Chosen of God would off load from the Ship and re-direct to different places in America.

    There is no doubt the false is in Canada, too. We need to continue to discern.


    Ezekiel 17:24 (King James Version)
    24And all the trees of the field shall know that I the LORD have brought down the high tree, have exalted the low tree, have dried up the green tree, and have made the dry tree to flourish: I the LORD have spoken and have done it.

    Swarna Jha

    After I saw the vision and stopped trying to figure out why the Ship landed in Canada, with food meant for America, I felt such a great and inexpressible joy in my spirit. I felt so re-assured. I wept again, but this time my tears were of joy and not sorrow or grief.

    I praise and magnify the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ, King of Kings, Lord of Lords. What a Mighty God we serve.

  9. Thank you pinklight,

    These words made me cry! God has already promised us in our ministry that we will stand and see the amazing things that he is going to do on our behalf. It is the government of Canada who has forced us into the USA but we believe that it is not without God’s knowledge and fore-ordination because he directs our pathway even if he has to use unbelievers to give us a push. The long hours of work have indeed been non-stop and the work on WIM was often 15 hours a day and took me two solid years. Indeed we are nothing but low trees and nothing of worth in the eyes of many, except that we are open to be used for God’s grace and his glory. The amazing thing is that God can and does bypass the ones who are already exalted and he picks the ones who are seen as nothing so that when God’s work is accomplished it is God alone who will get the ultimate glory not any human. Paul saw this as a “God thing” and he saw that God isn’t looking for greatness but weakness.

    2Co 12:9 And He has said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness.” Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me.

    Thank you again for sharing this with us! It really touched my heart and encouraged me.

  10. Cheryl,
    I have the privilege of knowing you personally and I am blessed!!
    There is only one ministry I truly trust and of all places it is in
    Canada–and now it is also in the USA :-)!! Thank you for your hard work and for faithfully “feeding” us American brothers and sisters the TRUTH!!! You are in my prayers.

  11. Thank you Jael for your kind words! God’s word is truth and it is a privilege and a responsibility to give out that truth especially to our American brothers and sisters. Thanks my friend for your prayers as we go forward in this brand new direction.

  12. so which Friday are you going to be on the LA talk show. Will there be a tape you can share?

    Waiting for news………

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