{"id":852,"date":"2009-02-02T15:44:39","date_gmt":"2009-02-02T23:44:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=852"},"modified":"2017-06-15T20:10:11","modified_gmt":"2017-06-16T03:10:11","slug":"adam-and-his-ms-organ","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/02\/02\/adam-and-his-ms-organ\/","title":{"rendered":"Adam and his Ms. organ"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-attachment-id=\"854\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/02\/02\/adam-and-his-ms-organ\/adam_heart3\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/adam_heart3.jpg?fit=278%2C350&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"278,350\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Cheryl Schatz Adam and his Ms. organ\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/adam_heart3.jpg?fit=238%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/adam_heart3.jpg?fit=278%2C350&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-854\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/adam_heart3.jpg?resize=278%2C350\" alt=\"Cheryl Schatz Adam and his Ms. organ\" width=\"278\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/adam_heart3.jpg?w=278&amp;ssl=1 278w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/adam_heart3.jpg?resize=238%2C300&amp;ssl=1 238w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 278px) 100vw, 278px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The creation account has been used by many as a foundation to produce myths and stories.\u00a0 While this post will concentrate on modern day myths, it is also helpful to understand some of the historical myths about the creation of male and female.<\/p>\n<p>One of the myths of creation comes from Plato where the <a title=\"Greek myths on human origins\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mythome.org\/greekorigins.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>androgynous sex<\/strong><\/a> existed as what humans were in the beginning.<span class=\"mediumtype\"> Here is the edited speech at the Banquet by Aristophanes (189e-193b of Plato&#8217;s Symposium): <\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span class=\"mediumtype\">&#8220;Anciently&#8230;.the androgynous sex existed&#8230;coupled back to back&#8230;till jealous Jupiter divided then vertically &#8230;as people cut eggs with hairs&#8230;after then, these divided and imperfect folk ran about over the earth ever seeking their lost halves to be joined to them again&#8230;and the reason being that human nature was originally one, and the desire and pursuit of the whole is called love&#8230;..&#8221; <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Another version is concerning Hermaphroditos who was a Greek androgynous deity.<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><a title=\"Hermaphroditos\" href=\"http:\/\/phoenixandturtle.net\/excerptmill\/GREEKA.HTM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hermaphroditos<\/a> <\/strong>(HERMAPHRODITUS) Greek androgynous deity. The cult of Hermaphroditos appeared first in Cyprus, but never became prominent in the rest of the Greek world until the Hellenistic period. Originally the son of Hermes and Aphrodite. The Naiad Salmakis (associated with a fountain of the same name in Caria, a region of Anatolia) fell so passionately in love with him that their bodies merged into one. In some versions, it was her entreaties to the gods that finally resulted in their becoming one being.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In1 Timothy Paul warns that myths give rise to speculation and this can hurt our faith.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1 Timothy 1:3\u00a0 As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines,<\/p>\n<p>1 Timothy 1:4\u00a0 nor to pay attention to <em><strong>myths<\/strong><\/em> and endless genealogies, <em><strong>which give rise to mere speculation<\/strong><\/em> <em><strong>rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith<\/strong><\/em>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Today, as in Paul&#8217;s day there are still many myths about creation and some of these myths not only distort who man is, but they also distort the image of God.\u00a0 While complementarians can be tempted to distort the image of God by saying that God is male, others distort the image of God by saying that God is male <em><strong>and<\/strong><\/em> female.\u00a0 The truth is that God is neither male nor female.\u00a0 God is spirit.\u00a0 God has no sexual body parts and as spirit God has no sexual gender.<\/p>\n<p>As a Christian apologist I frequently come across doctrinal error that has crept into the church through all kinds of TV preachers.\u00a0 It is a good idea to learn how to test the &#8220;new truths&#8221; that these teachers are spreading so that our foundation is based on the word of God and not popular myths.<\/p>\n<p>One of those teaching a modern day myth is\u00a0 Kenneth Copeland who says that God is both male and female like the first human Adam.\u00a0 The audio clip is <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/ken_copeland_adam_male_female.mp3\">here.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You know that God created Adam.\u00a0 We won&#8217;t go back over that again.\u00a0 He created him in authority.\u00a0 God said and it was.\u00a0 God said let there be light and there was.\u00a0 Then he came up to create man and said, God said &#8220;Let us create man in our image.\u00a0 Let him have dominion.&#8221;\u00a0 Those were the words that he used to bring Adam alive.\u00a0 And then he created Eve out of Adam.\u00a0 Actually God didn&#8217;t name her Eve.\u00a0 Adam named her Eve later.\u00a0 That wasn&#8217;t her name.\u00a0 Her name was Adam.\u00a0 When God said Adam, they both came.\u00a0 Their authority was one and the same together.\u00a0 They did everything together.\u00a0 They had always been together even when she was still part of him.\u00a0 He was as much female as he was male,<em><strong> like God is<\/strong><\/em>.\u00a0 God separated the female part of him and then put him back together.\u00a0 And she was Adam.\u00a0 They were Adam.\u00a0 He was the man, she was the woman.\u00a0 She was the man with the womb.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Bible says nothing at all about the words &#8220;Let him have dominion&#8221; as the words that brought Adam to life.\u00a0 This is a word of faith myth that allows Copeland to teach that man was given such extensive dominion that God now has to have our permission to do anything in this world.\u00a0 In this myth man becomes god-like one who has the power to create whatever he speaks.<\/p>\n<p>Copeland also teaches that God created Adam as an androgynous being, with both male and female body parts.\u00a0 Once the myth has been established in people&#8217;s minds, Copeland builds on this myth and makes God in the same image as his creation.\u00a0 He says that the androgynous Adam was made <em><strong>like God is<\/strong><\/em>.\u00a0 This theology is Greek myth more akin to Zeus of the Greek pantheon.<\/p>\n<p>In contrast, the Bible is absolutely clear that God is our Heavenly Father and in his divine nature, sexual distinctions are non-existent.\u00a0 God is not like man with male and female parts.\u00a0 God is pure spirit.\u00a0 When God first created Adam, he created man in His image and then God created the woman in both the image of God and the image of man. The concept that God is a being with sexual identity as both male and female is transforming God into a pagan mythological deity.<\/p>\n<p>Copeland also teaches that <a title=\"Kenneth Copeland\" href=\"http:\/\/www.kcm.org\/index.php?p=daily_devotional&amp;date=2000-06-28&amp;devo_language=ENG\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>wholeness only comes<\/strong><\/a> with men and women together.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>After that, man and woman had to come together to be perfectly whole.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If this was true, then single people could never have wholeness in life unless they are currently married.\u00a0 Yet Paul says that singleness can be a blessing because it can bring time for undistracted service to the Lord.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1 Corinthians 7:34\u00a0 &#8230; The woman who is unmarried, and the virgin, is concerned about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and spirit; but one who is married is concerned about the things of the world, how she may please her husband.<br \/>\n1 Corinthians 7:35\u00a0 This I say for your own benefit; not to put a restraint upon you, but to promote what is appropriate and to secure undistracted devotion to the Lord.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It is also a myth that one cannot have wholeness unless one is married.\u00a0 This myth can be devastating when it is taught to those who are single.<\/p>\n<p>Benny Hinn also teaches that originally man was both male and female and that Adam gave birth to the female out of his side.\u00a0 Listen to the audio clip <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/benny_hinn_adam_birthed_eve.mp3\">here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Holy Spirit said something to me and I had to go like a mad man and looking in the Word.\u00a0 He says, &#8220;God&#8217;s original plan is that the woman was to <em><strong>bring forth children out her other side<\/strong><\/em>.&#8221; \u00a0 What?\u00a0 You know that there is nowhere in the Bible but where God gives birth out of His side? Jesus gives birth to the church out of His side.\u00a0 <em><strong>Adam <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">gives birth<\/span> to his wife out of his side<\/strong><\/em>.\u00a0 It was sin that turned the thing around. And it was sin that transformed her flesh and her body.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is nothing less than a myth.\u00a0 There is not even one verse to confirm that the woman was originally created to give birth out of her side.\u00a0 Again we have the mythological teaching that the first man was created as male and female with Adam giving birth to Eve.\u00a0 It may be a very romantic idea, but it has no basis in the scriptures.<\/p>\n<p>How far the myths can be stretched is shown by Benny Hinn&#8217;s bizarre teaching about the super being abilities of Adam. Listen to the audio file\u00a0 <strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/02\/benny_hinn_adam_super_being2.mp3\">here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Adam was a super being when God created him.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t know if people even know this but he was the first super man that ever lived.\u00a0 First of all the scriptures declare clearly that he had dominion over the fowls of the air, the fish of the sea, which means he used to fly.\u00a0 Well of course, how could he have dominion over the birds and not be able to do what they do?\u00a0 I&#8217;ll prove it to you.\u00a0 The word dominion, in the Hebrew, clearly declares that if you have dominion over a subject that you do everything that subject does.\u00a0 In other words that subject if it does something you cannot do, you don&#8217;t have dominion over it.\u00a0 I&#8217;ll prove it further.\u00a0 Adam not only flew, he flew to space.\u00a0 He was with one thought he would be on the moon.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>There is nothing in Benny Hinn&#8217;s story that has any validity to it.\u00a0 The Hebrew word for dominion does not mean that you have to do everything that your subjects are able to do.\u00a0 It is preposterous to think that there is even a hint in the scriptures that Adam had gills like a fish to breath underwater so that he could have dominion over the fish of the sea or that he could also buzz around like a bee.\u00a0 This is an untrue myth.<\/p>\n<p>Another myth has come along into the landscape that Adam in the beginning was called both &#8220;male&#8221; and &#8220;female&#8221; and both &#8220;him&#8221; and &#8220;them&#8221;.\u00a0 <a title=\"Christiane Carlson-Thies\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cbeinternational.org\/new\/free_articles\/SingingAdamsSong.shtml\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Christiane Carlson-Thies<\/strong><\/a> writes an article for CBE (Christians for Biblical Equality) in and this article she states that <em><strong>one<\/strong><\/em> person can be called &#8220;them&#8221;.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p style=\"margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;\">In Genesis 1:27-28, God clearly elevates Adam above every creature creating him in the &#8220;image of God.&#8221; And God gives clear marching orders: Be fruitful. Fill the earth. Rule. But what is this Adam that God creates in his divine image and that he authorizes to fulfill the cultural mandate? In this passage, God uses a lot of words that don&#8217;t normally apply to a solitary person. Specifically, God calls Adam variously &#8220;him&#8221;, &#8220;them&#8221;, &#8220;male&#8221; and &#8220;female.&#8221; Hmmm. Know anyone like that?<\/p>\n<p>From Genesis 1:27 through Genesis 2:21, we learn the story of Adam, &#8220;him-them-male-female&#8221; &#8211; the world&#8217;s first and only truly &#8220;generic man.&#8221; Granted, if we had a photograph of this Adam, from our perspective in a universe of both male and female humans, we would identify the creature we see as a male human, but in Adam&#8217;s universe, to what could he compare himself to fix his human identity? What plants, what animals were like him? None, as Adam sadly discovers in Genesis 2. Distinctly different from all of God&#8217;s other creation, Adam is human, nothing more, nothing less. Going back to God&#8217;s own words again, Adam is &#8220;him-them-male-female,&#8221; a formulation repeated in Genesis 5:2.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>What Christiane fails to realize is that Genesis chapter 1 is not talking about the creation of <em>one<\/em> person as a plural, but about one person from whom was made another person.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Genesis 1:26\u00a0 Then God said, &#8220;Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.&#8221;<br \/>\nGenesis 1:27\u00a0 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.<br \/>\nGenesis 1:28\u00a0 God blessed them; and God said to them, &#8220;Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; and rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over every living thing that moves on the earth.&#8221;<br \/>\nGenesis 1:29\u00a0 Then God said, &#8220;Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In Genesis 1:26 God says that mankind will be made in the image of God.\u00a0 He doesn&#8217;t say &#8220;the man&#8221; as he does elsewhere because in this instance, it is the generic term for mankind.\u00a0 Speaking of his plan, God gives the rulership to &#8220;them&#8221;.\u00a0 This was the plan even before God created, that they would rule.\u00a0 Then in verse 27 God speaks about the creation of the man (the noun is definite) and after that point, God will use the plural for male and female.\u00a0 This proves that both male and female were created in God&#8217;s image, not just the male.<\/p>\n<p>In verse 28 we can see that the rulership of the creation is given when both male and female are together.\u00a0 The male does not get rulership given to him before the time that the female is created.\u00a0 This is clear from the text because it would make no sense to tell a single human to &#8220;be fruitful and multiple&#8221;.\u00a0 This is spoken to both the man and the woman.\u00a0 God also tells both of them what they can and cannot eat by giving them parameters for food.\u00a0 The word &#8220;you&#8221; in the Hebrew is plural.\u00a0 God gives the man and the woman only the plants yielding seed and only the fruit from the trees which yield seed.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>There is no indication in the original Hebrew that God is speaking to one person as a plural.\u00a0 This is a myth.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Can the truth of God&#8217;s word be blended together with modern myths or pagan mythologies?\u00a0 I believe that when we do this we water down the world of God.\u00a0 I believe very strongly that the word of God is eternal, infallible and unchanging.<\/p>\n<p>Now let&#8217;s deal with some questions regarding what kind of person Adam was before Eve was created.<\/p>\n<p><strong>1.\u00a0 Could Adam&#8217;s exclamation that Eve is\u00a0 &#8220;bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh&#8221; mean that she was a female part of him that was taken out?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>There are many who say that Adam&#8217;s exclamation is just poetic language and isn&#8217;t to be taken literally.\u00a0 There are two problems with this view.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>If Adam was merely speaking poetically then how would we know that?\u00a0 What is there in the text that does not allow Adam&#8217;s words to be literal?<\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>There is nothing in the text that would make Adam&#8217;s words non-literal.\u00a0 If the words were not literal, where would we get the meaning from?\u00a0 No other meaning in scripture is ever supplied for Adam&#8217;s words other than what he literally said.<\/p>\n<p>Also if Eve came from a female organ that was taken out of Adam, Adam&#8217;s words would contradict that fact.\u00a0 In the literal Hebrew Adam said &#8220;this is the once bone from bones of me and flesh from flesh of me&#8221;.\u00a0 The first &#8220;bone&#8221; is singular and the second bone is plural.\u00a0 Literally Adam said that she is made from what was once &#8220;a bone&#8221; amongst his multiple &#8220;bones&#8221; and she is flesh from what was his flesh.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>If God wanted us to know that Eve was formed from a female organ within Adam how could God have inspired his word to tell us that?<\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Adam would have had to say &#8220;this is <em>her<\/em> flesh taken from me&#8221;.\u00a0 It would have to be <strong><em>her<\/em><\/strong> flesh not his.\u00a0 Why all the fuss?\u00a0 Why is this so important that it was <em><strong>his flesh<\/strong><\/em> that she was made from, not <em><strong>her own<\/strong><\/em> flesh that was divided from his body?\u00a0 The reason is because Eve had to be a DNA descendant of Adam&#8217;s so that the kinsman Redeemer that came through her would be traceable back to Adam before he sinned.\u00a0 Read my post on <a title=\"Adam as Head of the Family by Cheryl Schatz\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2006\/11\/20\/adam-as-head-of-the-family\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Adam as head of the family<\/strong><\/a> to see how important it is to tie Eve back to Adam with a link before the stain of sin.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>There is nothing in the record that would impugn Adam&#8217;s testimony.<\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>If\u00a0 Adam&#8217;s testimony was false then God would have corrected him.\u00a0 Adam&#8217;s testimony to Eve is that she was part of his own bone as well as was his own flesh.\u00a0 <em>He did not testify that she was her own flesh from a female organ inside Adam<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Both the man and the woman were created in their sexual identify.\u00a0 Adam was not created androgynous.\u00a0 If this was so, then scripture would tell us that God created an androgynous human who later came to have a male identify.\u00a0 The only reliable text we have is that the man was created male in the beginning and he did not become male after the female part was taken out of him.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2.\u00a0 Did God&#8217;s testimony that he created humanity in Genesis 1:26 mean that God created an androgynous human?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In Genesis 1:26 God speaks about his plan to make humanity.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Genesis 1:26\u00a0 Then God said, &#8220;Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the sky and over the cattle and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It isn&#8217;t until verse 27 that God creates male and female from the &#8220;him&#8221; who was created first.\u00a0 God&#8217;s plan was to create humanity in his image and he did that with the creation of <em>two<\/em> people who were individually male and female.\u00a0 Women cannot be considered less then men by saying that only man was created and the woman was formed.\u00a0 In chapter 1 both male and female are said to be created and in chapter 2 both male and female are said to be formed.\u00a0 The term &#8220;formed&#8221; is the way that God &#8220;created&#8221;.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>Adam concurred with God, agreeing that the female was taken from the male.<\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Adam&#8217;s testimony is that the female was taken out of the the male (Hebrew ish).\u00a0 Adam does not use the generic term for mankind.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Gen 2:23\u00a0 The man said, &#8220;This is now bone of my bones, And flesh of my flesh; She shall be called Woman (ish-shaw), Because she was taken out of Man (eesh).&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Adam said she <em><strong>is<\/strong><\/em> bone of my bones&#8230;\u00a0 If what comes next is not true, then Adam was mistaken and God who had just brought Eve to the man, failed to correct the mistake.\u00a0 No, the clear way to interpret the text, is that God created the female from a part of the man&#8217;s own body.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3.\u00a0 Can&#8217;t the word for &#8220;rib&#8221; also mean &#8220;side chamber&#8221; proving that Eve was a female organ inside of Adam?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Although the Hebrew word can mean &#8220;side chamber&#8221; and although the translation &#8220;rib&#8221; is only translated this way only one time in the Old Testament, the amount 0f times a word is translated a certain way is not the only key to a correct translation.\u00a0 The most consistent key to a correct translation is the context.\u00a0 Adam said &#8220;she is&#8230;&#8221; and in his testimony he testifies that she is his own flesh and bone.\u00a0 With the word &#8220;bone&#8221; given by Adam, the best translation is rib since that is the bone in the side of\u00a0 man.\u00a0 One would have to explain away Adam&#8217;s words in order to have the translation read &#8220;side chamber&#8221;.\u00a0 I believe that Adam told the truth and that his testimony was true and reliable because God is the one who told Adam what was used to make Eve.\u00a0 It was bone and flesh.\u00a0 I would rather believe the text than explain away the clear meaning.<\/p>\n<p><strong>4.\u00a0 Is there a New Testament &#8220;proof&#8221; that Eve was made from the male and not divided from an androgynous human?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In 1 Corinthians 11:7-8, Paul states that the woman is the &#8220;glory&#8221; of the man (aner).<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1 Corinthians 11:7\u00a0 For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of <em><strong>man<\/strong><\/em> (aner)<br \/>\n1 Corinthians 11:8\u00a0 For man does not originate from woman, but woman from <em><strong>man<\/strong><\/em> (aner);<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If the woman did not come from his own flesh as Adam declared she did, she wouldn&#8217;t have been <em>his<\/em> glory.\u00a0 She would have been her own glory.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em><strong>One of the signs of a myth is that there are holes in the argument and unanswerable questions<\/strong><\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>While truth is provable from the text, a myth will have holes in the argument.\u00a0 For those who believe that Eve was taken out as a female part of Adam and then formed into a woman, what was Adam before Eve was taken out?\u00a0 How did Adam become &#8220;male&#8221; after the &#8220;female&#8221; organ was taken out?\u00a0 Did God add male hormones to Adam while Adam was still asleep?\u00a0 There are more questions then there are answers when a myth comes into view.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conclusion<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<p>Interpretation of the scriptures is to be consistent with the text.\u00a0 It is not to be based on feelings but what God has revealed.\u00a0\u00a0 There are a great deal of myths that are very compelling because they are romantic and they just feel good.\u00a0 One of the most popular myths is that Adam sinned because he was giving up his life\u00a0 for his wife when he ate the fruit, making Adam a romantic savior for his wife.\u00a0 Yet romantic or not, these are still myths.<\/p>\n<p>It is my desire to be free from myths and to stick to the word of God alone.\u00a0 I realize that it is possible that I could be wrong and that Adam was indeed created an androgynous human, but if I am wrong, it is the Word of God which will be able to correct me.\u00a0 Until I am corrected, I will stand on the Word of God as it is and affirm that in Eve&#8217;s creation, Adam told the truth and God&#8217;s Word told the truth that they were created male and female from the beginning.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The creation account has been used by many as a foundation to produce myths and stories.\u00a0 While this post will concentrate on modern day myths, it is also helpful to understand some of the historical myths about the creation of male and female. One of the myths of creation comes from Plato where the androgynous sex existed as what humans were in the beginning. 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