{"id":437,"date":"2008-09-11T22:09:16","date_gmt":"2008-09-12T05:09:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=437"},"modified":"2008-09-11T22:09:16","modified_gmt":"2008-09-12T05:09:16","slug":"who-cares","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/09\/11\/who-cares\/","title":{"rendered":"Who is in charge? Or who cares?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I got a special hug today from Dr. Cynthia Kunsman a very brave lady who has been fighting a battle against authoritarian spiritual abuse. \u00a0 Cynthia sent me a link to a wonderful post about marriage and the head\/body metaphor.\u00a0 I would like to share this link with you because I believe the article is very well written and balanced.\u00a0 Here is the link\u00a0 <a title=\"Who is in charge? Or who cares?\" href=\"http:\/\/www.beenthinking.org\/2008\/09\/04\/whos-in-charge-or-who-cares\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Who is in charge?\u00a0 Or who cares?<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Mart De Haan writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>I\u2019m convinced that if we really listen to the text, the right question is not, \u201cwho\u2019s in charge?\u201d, but \u201cwho cares?\u201d<\/strong> (i.e. who cares for one another as a head and body care for and cooperate with one another?)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I recommend that you browse through the article.\u00a0 It isn&#8217;t too long, but it is powerful.<\/p>\n<p>Feel free to comment here and\/or on Mart&#8217;s blog.\u00a0 Enjoy and thank you to Cynthia for sending this hug to me today!\u00a0 You can visit Cynthia&#8217;s <a title=\"Dr. Cynthia Kunsman's blog\" href=\"http:\/\/www.undermuchgrace.blogspot.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>blog here<\/strong><\/a> or her <a title=\"Dr. Cynthia Kunsman's web site\" href=\"http:\/\/www.undermuchgrace.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>web site here<\/strong><\/a>.\u00a0 Cynthia&#8217;s material on hierarchy, spiritual abuse, the Family Integrated Church movement and more is extensive and thought-provoking.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got a special hug today from Dr. Cynthia Kunsman a very brave lady who has been fighting a battle against authoritarian spiritual abuse. \u00a0 Cynthia sent me a link to a wonderful post about marriage and the head\/body metaphor.\u00a0 I would like to share this link with you because I believe the article is very well written and balanced.\u00a0 Here is the link\u00a0 Who is in charge?\u00a0 Or who cares? 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