{"id":275,"date":"2008-08-07T22:03:19","date_gmt":"2008-08-08T05:03:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=275"},"modified":"2017-06-16T20:23:31","modified_gmt":"2017-06-17T03:23:31","slug":"was-eve-mistaken","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/08\/07\/was-eve-mistaken\/","title":{"rendered":"Was Eve mistaken?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In our continuing discussions on the fall of man we have dealt with the issue of <a title=\"The Unfaithful Watchman\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/07\/27\/the-unfaithful-watchman\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>Adam as guardian of the garden<\/strong><\/a> and the <a title=\"The Case Against Eve\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/07\/30\/the-case-against-eve\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>charge against Eve that she added to God&#8217;s word<\/strong><\/a>.\u00a0 In this post I will deal with the position that Eve did not sin by adding to God&#8217;s word but she was merely <strong>mistaken<\/strong> regarding what God said.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s start with a question.\u00a0 If Eve was mistaken, what caused her to be mistaken?\u00a0 Let&#8217;s consider the options.<\/p>\n<p>1.\u00a0 <strong>Adam heard the command from God but he added to God&#8217;s word<\/strong> when he told the woman that God said &#8220;You (plural) shall not eat from it or touch it&#8230;&#8221;\u00a0 Eve was mistaken because Adam lied to her.<\/p>\n<p>Is this a viable option?<\/p>\n<p>If it was <strong>Adam<\/strong> who added to God&#8217;s word, then it was Adam who sinned in this way in addition to eating the fruit.\u00a0 If this is true, we can ask the very same questions as we did when we considered if the woman added to God&#8217;s word.\u00a0 How can we charge Adam with this sin if there is no charge of adding to God&#8217;s words in the text?\u00a0 Who is a witness against Adam?\u00a0 Did God say anything about this sin to Adam?\u00a0 No he didn&#8217;t but he should have reproved him if Adam was guilty.<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Deuteronomy 12:32\u00a0 \u201cWhatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; <strong>you shall not add<\/strong> to nor take away from it.<\/p>\n<p>Deuteronomy 4:2\u00a0 \u201c<strong>You shall not add<\/strong> to the word which I am commanding you, nor take away from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<blockquote><p>Proverbs 30:6\u00a0 <strong>Do not add to His words<\/strong> Or He will <strong>reprove <\/strong>you, and you <strong>will be proved a liar<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Since there are <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">no witnesses at all<\/span> to convict Adam, without any evidence to indict Adam of adding to God&#8217;s words, and God himself said nothing about this &#8220;sin&#8221;, we must see Adam as innocent of this charge.<\/p>\n<p>Let us look at the next option.<\/p>\n<p>2.\u00a0 <strong>Adam added his own command to his wife after God&#8217;s command<\/strong>.\u00a0 Adam heard the command from God and gave the command to his wife exactly as it was given to him in Genesis 2.\u00a0 However after giving her God&#8217;s command, he added his own command to his wife that she was not to touch the fruit and it was <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">this command from Adam<\/span> that the woman mistook as God&#8217;s command.<\/p>\n<p>Is this a viable option?<\/p>\n<p>If we are to believe God&#8217;s word exactly as it is written, this option is also not viable.\u00a0 Why not?\u00a0 It is because the inspired words are a double plural &#8220;you&#8221;.\u00a0 The inspired text from the Hebrew says &#8220;not you (plural) shall eat from it and not you (plural) shall touch it&#8230;&#8221;\u00a0 See the literal Hebrew words and grammar <a title=\"Genesis 3\" href=\"http:\/\/scripture4all.org\/OnlineInterlinear\/OTpdf\/gen3.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>here<\/strong><\/a>. \u00a0 If the inspired words are both the plural &#8220;you&#8221;, then they cannot be a mix of what God said (&#8220;you&#8221; plural) and what Adam would have said to his wife (singular &#8220;you&#8221;).\u00a0 If Adam had added his own command it would either be you (singular) or we (plural).\u00a0 It would not be the plural word &#8220;you&#8221;.\u00a0 For those of us who believe that God&#8217;s word is inspired without error with inspired words and inspired grammar, this option does not appear at all to be a viable option.<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s look at the next options.<\/p>\n<p>3.\u00a0 <strong>The woman was mistaken because she was hard of hearing<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>This option is nothing more than speculation since the woman was created as a completely whole person with all of her faculties in place.<\/p>\n<p>4.\u00a0 <strong>The woman was mistaken because she had a memory problem<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Again this option is speculative and since the woman&#8217;s brain did not have mental deterioration and she was created as a completely whole person with all of her faculties in place, we can reject this one as well.<\/p>\n<p>5.\u00a0 <strong>The woman was mistaken because she was childlike and couldn&#8217;t get a simple command correct<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>This option would refute the fact that God created the woman as a &#8220;helper&#8221; for the man.\u00a0 God himself is often called a &#8220;helper&#8221; in scripture and it is a word of strength describing a person who brings aid to one who is in need of the aid.\u00a0 If she was the one who provided aid to meet Adam&#8217;s need, she couldn&#8217;t have been a drainer &#8211; one who by her very nature needed to be constantly supervised so she wouldn&#8217;t mess things up.<\/p>\n<p>None of these options fits the biblical text.\u00a0 What can we conclude?\u00a0 We must conclude that to say that Eve was <strong>mistaken<\/strong> about what God said is a view that is without any solid biblical support.<\/p>\n<p>Is there a much better option?\u00a0 Why don&#8217;t we just believe the woman&#8217;s testimony?\u00a0 Let&#8217;s think this one through a little more.<\/p>\n<p>In Genesis 1:29 we know that God spoke to both Adam and Eve about what they had permission to eat.\u00a0 The Hebrew has God speaking to &#8220;them&#8221; in verse 28 and God used the plural word &#8220;you&#8221; in verse 29.\u00a0 See the Hebrew grammar <strong><a title=\"Genesis 1\" href=\"http:\/\/scripture4all.org\/OnlineInterlinear\/OTpdf\/gen1.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/strong>.\u00a0 If God did not give Adam the charge or obligation to instruct Eve on what she had permission to eat, why would we think that God would withhold his own personal witness to Eve about what she was forbidden to eat?\u00a0 We already know from Genesis 1:29 that the prohibition is incorporated into the permission to eat.\u00a0 See more about this topic <strong><a title=\"Eve and God\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/07\/17\/eve-and-god\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a><\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>We have no direct witness in scripture saying &#8220;And God said to Eve&#8230;&#8221; but we know for sure that the woman knew about the prohibition because she defended God when the serpent charged God with withholding his best from them. At that time the woman said they were forbidden to eat from one particular tree in the middle of the garden.\u00a0 There were two trees in the middle of the garden but only one tree had fruit that was forbidden for them to touch.<\/p>\n<p>If God cared enough about the woman to give her personal instructions about <a title=\"Adam and Eve as fruit inspectors\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/07\/20\/adam-eve-fruit-inspectors\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>testing the fruit to know what she could and couldn&#8217;t eat<\/strong><\/a>, then why would we assume that it was Adam who told the woman about the prohibition?\u00a0 Where do we have any words of instruction quoted in scripture that Adam gave to his wife?\u00a0 We have not one word of instruction from Adam to his wife.\u00a0 However we <strong>do<\/strong> have <strong>personal<\/strong> instruction <strong>from God to the woman<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Here we are once again at the bottom line.\u00a0 It always boils down to what we are going to do with the woman&#8217;s testimony.\u00a0 She said &#8220;God said&#8230;&#8221;\u00a0 Who caused us to mistrust her testimony?\u00a0 Is there anything in scripture that would tell us that she lied or that she was mistaken?\u00a0 Or have we fallen prey to our world&#8217;s tradition that automatically distrusts a woman&#8217;s testimony and calls it into question?<\/p>\n<p>For those of you who are yet unconvinced, let me ask you to explain to me how the woman came to be mistaken?\u00a0 There must be a logical and scriptural option for the mistake of the woman or else we have nothing else but mere speculation and innuendo against the woman.<\/p>\n<p>If we are going to be\u00a0 God&#8217;s people of faith, we must walk in the direction of allowing women to testify about God.\u00a0 God has already said that in the last days he will fill both male and female with his Spirit.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Joel 2:28\u00a0 &#8220;It will come about after this That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; And <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">your sons and daughters will prophesy<\/span>, Your old men will dream dreams, Your young men will see visions.<br \/>\nJoel 2:29\u00a0 &#8220;Even on the <strong>male and female<\/strong> servants <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>I will<\/strong><\/span> pour out My Spirit in those days.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If God has filled his female &#8220;sons&#8221; with his Holy Spirit just as he has filled his male &#8220;sons&#8221;, then let us also release women with our blessing to testify about what &#8220;God said&#8230;&#8221; and let us as the body of Christ believe their testimony.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In our continuing discussions on the fall of man we have dealt with the issue of Adam as guardian of the garden and the charge against Eve that she added to God&#8217;s word.\u00a0 In this post I will deal with the position that Eve did not sin by adding to God&#8217;s word but she was merely mistaken regarding what God said. 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