{"id":228,"date":"2008-05-12T03:57:47","date_gmt":"2008-05-12T10:57:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=228"},"modified":"2008-05-12T03:57:47","modified_gmt":"2008-05-12T10:57:47","slug":"primogeniture","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/05\/12\/primogeniture\/","title":{"rendered":"Primogeniture"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the next of Matt Slick\u2019s articles on women in ministry that I will be reviewing is his article called Primogeniture found at <a title=\"Primogeniture\" href=\"http:\/\/www.carm.org\/womeninministry\/primogeniture.htm\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>http:\/\/www.carm.org\/womeninministry\/primogeniture.htm<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/a><br \/>\nMatt gives what he considers to be the meaning of primogeniture:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cPrimogeniture, the biblical teaching that the firstborn has preeminence and authority over those that follow in the family.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I would like to ask where he gets such a definition from the bible?  The correct definition of primogeniture from the dictionary is:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>The state of being the first born or eldest child of the same parents.<\/li>\n<li>Law The right of the eldest child, especially the eldest son, to inherit the entire estate of one or both parents.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Where does it say that the firstborn has authority over those that follow in the family?  The bible doesn\u2019t say this and Matt seems to have picked up an error from CBMW that primogeniture is about people having the right to rule others just because they are first born.<\/p>\n<p>While the first one born had the right to the inheritance from the Father, God bypassed man\u2019s system at times to give the rights to one who was not firstborn.  For example God calls Ephraim his firstborn in Jeremiah 31:9 even though Ephraim was the second one born and it was Manasseh who was the first one born.  Jesus is the ultimate first born and he is called the first born of or over all creation as he is the pre-eminent one because he created all things.  However the bible never says that a human creature is given the right to rule others just because he is the first one born.<\/p>\n<p>The issue of primogeniture would not even come into play regarding men and women since Adam was not the first of siblings.  Eve was his wife, not his brother.  There is no place in Genesis that God gave Adam the right to rule over his wife and it wasn\u2019t until sin entered the world that God told Eve in prophesy that this is what Adam would do to her, but God never said that it was his will nor did he tell Adam to rule Eve.  His words were to Eve prophetically, not to Adam as a command or the giving of a right.<\/p>\n<p>Matt\u2019s article fails the test of truth in his effort to prove that God has given man the right to rule over women because man was created first.  There is no right in primogeniture to rule over others and Jesus said that lording over others was something that was not to be heard among the followers of Christ.  Matt\u2019s article proves that those who seek to dominate and control others will grasp at straws to try to prove biblically their \u201cright\u201d to do so.  However Matt\u2019s \u201cproof\u201d of a man\u2019s right to rule has no biblical basis at all.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the next of Matt Slick\u2019s articles on women in ministry that I will be reviewing is his article called Primogeniture found at http:\/\/www.carm.org\/womeninministry\/primogeniture.htm Matt gives what he considers to be the meaning of primogeniture: \u201cPrimogeniture, the biblical teaching that the firstborn has preeminence and authority over those that follow in the family.\u201d I would like to ask where he gets such a definition from the bible? 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