{"id":213,"date":"2008-03-27T09:30:25","date_gmt":"2008-03-27T16:30:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2008\/03\/27\/to-diane-sellner-of-carm\/"},"modified":"2017-06-18T15:04:59","modified_gmt":"2017-06-18T22:04:59","slug":"to-diane-sellner-of-carm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/03\/27\/to-diane-sellner-of-carm\/","title":{"rendered":"To Diane Sellner of CARM"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>**October 2008 addition Note: A public statement regarding Diane Sellner&#8217;s role in the public attacks against me is at <a href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/09\/06\/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/09\/06\/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>To Diane Sellner,<\/p>\n<p>I have invited you to my blog and provided a safe place for you to dialog with me. I thought this was thoughtful, kind and generous. What you have done is accuse me of teaching error and then you put posts up on CARM that say I haven&#8217;t answered the accusations yet you have blocked me from posting as you have my posts on moderation and they are not showing up.<\/p>\n<p>Clearly we have two different standards.<\/p>\n<p>Here is the new discussion board that Diane has delegated both for general discussions and the issue of women in ministry <a title=\"CARM Diane Sellner and Matt Slick moderators\" href=\"http:\/\/www.christiandiscussionforums.org\/v\/forumdisplay.php?f=91\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">http:\/\/www.christiandiscussionforums.org\/v\/forumdisplay.php?f=91<\/a><\/p>\n<p><!--more-->If any visitor to my blog would like to see the side of hierarchy that regularly bans egalitarians who post in a respectful manner, and dominates and controls those who don&#8217;t agree with them, please do visit CARM&#8217;s discussion board and pay close attention to the attitude displayed there. The really old posts on &#8220;feminism&#8221; are downright scary when you consider the leadership at CARM are supposed to be fellow Christians.<\/p>\n<p>Now I would like to ask a question to the visitors on my blog: why do you think that there is such a double standard with hierarchists? What might be some of the reasons that causes them to treat this secondary issue in the body of Christ as if it is a matter of salvation, thus causing them to be divisive towards their fellow brothers and sisters in the faith?<\/p>\n<p>Also I would like to ask for wisdom from the posters here. What has helped you to keep a respectful attitude when you are being attacked? Are there points of wisdom that you can share with all of us that will keep our eyes focused on our Lord Jesus and less on the attacks coming from this hierarchical camp?<\/p>\n<p>I would also like to bring attention to <a href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/03\/26\/dr-randall-buth-refutes-accusation-against-me-on-carm\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>my previous post<\/strong><\/a> where I have answered some of the challenges posed to me but which to this point have not been allowed to appear on the CARM board to this point.<\/p>\n<p>Apparently my wisdom in deciding that my own blog is the appropriate place to answer the challenges to my egalitarian argument by Matt Slick has been a good decision. It is the only place I can do this in a respectful manner without having my answers held back. I really appreciate the ability to be able to post here and to find such a respectful community of believers who take the challenge to heart about representing Jesus with a truly Christ-like attitude!<\/p>\n<p>Also a quite note that I am still working hard on the Trinity DVD so my periods of absence here are for a good reason!<\/p>\n<p>Blessings,<\/p>\n<p>Cheryl<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>**October 2008 addition Note: A public statement regarding Diane Sellner&#8217;s role in the public attacks against me is at https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/09\/06\/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick To Diane Sellner, I have invited you to my blog and provided a safe place for you to dialog with me. I thought this was thoughtful, kind and generous. 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