{"id":1908,"date":"2010-03-14T21:19:10","date_gmt":"2010-03-15T04:19:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=1908"},"modified":"2016-09-21T20:22:34","modified_gmt":"2016-09-22T03:22:34","slug":"men-taken-womens-good-portion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2010\/03\/14\/men-taken-womens-good-portion\/","title":{"rendered":"Have men taken away women&#8217;s &#8220;good portion&#8221;?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-attachment-id=\"1932\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2010\/03\/14\/men-taken-womens-good-portion\/taken-away\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/taken-away.jpg?fit=275%2C176&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"275,176\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"taken-away on Women in Ministry blog by Cheryl Schatz\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/taken-away.jpg?fit=275%2C176&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/taken-away.jpg?fit=275%2C176&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1932\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/03\/taken-away.jpg?resize=275%2C176\" alt=\"taken-away on Women in Ministry blog by Cheryl Schatz\" width=\"275\" height=\"176\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: left;\">Do women have the right to keep their &#8220;good portion&#8221;?<\/h1>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">&#8220;&#8230;Mary has chosen the good portion, which will not be taken away from her.\u201d\u00a0 Luke 10:41-42<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">In the complementarian Christian community, there is a lot of pressure to keep women away from a <em>place<\/em> that doesn&#8217;t belong to them. \u00a0Because of the teaching that there is a &#8220;biblical manhood&#8221; and &#8220;biblical womanhood,&#8221; and the way we follow Jesus depends on our gender, many have been focused on dividing and protecting the man&#8217;s <em>portion <\/em>as if something has been given to men alone. \u00a0Is this really biblical? \u00a0Is there really something that belongs to men alone that need to be held back from women?\u00a0<!--more--><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">In Luke 10 the Lord Jesus encountered pressure to remove Mary from sitting at his feet as one of the disciples in order for her to take the<em> place<\/em> of a worker in the home. \u00a0His response to Martha is quite revealing about the Lord&#8217;s view of women.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Luke 10:41\u201342 (NASB)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">41 But the Lord answered and said to her, \u201cMartha, Martha, you are worried and bothered about so many things;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">42 but only one thing is necessary, for Mary has chosen the good part, which shall not be taken away from her.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Regarding the <em>place<\/em> of a disciple, Jesus said that there is only one thing that is necessary. Please note that Jesus did not say that there are two things that are necessary &#8211; one for males and one for females. The <em>one thing<\/em> that is absolutely necessary is to sit as a disciple at His feet. \u00a0There was no division between what is necessary for males or females.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">The next thing that we can see from Jesus&#8217; words is that Mary herself had\u00a0<em>chosen <\/em>the good part. \u00a0The Greek word used here is <em>eklegomai<\/em> which means <em>chosen for oneself<\/em>. \u00a0Mary had the opportunity to<em> choose<\/em> for herself and what she chose as a disciple at Jesus&#8217; feet is the <em>good portion<\/em>. This is a share or part in the opportunity and responsibility to learn and then do the work of a disciple. \u00a0It was Mary&#8217;s own choice to be a disciple and to have her portion alongside the rest of the disciples.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Jesus then reveals something that is extremely important. He said that what she has received (her portion as a disciple) shall <em>not<\/em> be taken away from her. The Greek word for<em>\u00a0&#8220;take away&#8221;<\/em> is <em>aphaireo<\/em> and it means to have something taken away by force. Jesus is saying that her portion as one of the disciples, which rightfully belongs to Mary and which is a good thing, shall not be removed from her by force.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Mary&#8217;s faith in Jesus caused her to understand the gospel and to do the work of preparing the body of Jesus for burial as an act of her faith.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Mark 14:6\u20139 (NASB)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">6 But Jesus said, \u201cLet her alone; why do you bother her? She has done a good deed to Me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">7 \u201cFor you always have the poor with you, and whenever you wish you can do good to them; but you do not always have Me.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">8 \u201cShe has done what she could; she has anointed My body beforehand for the burial.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">9 \u201cTruly I say to you, wherever the gospel is preached in the whole world, what this woman has done will also be spoken of in memory of her.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">John tells us that this woman was Mary.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">John 12:3 (NASB)\u00a0Mary then took a pound of very costly perfume of pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped His feet with her hair; and the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Mary, the one who sat at the feet of Jesus and who received her share right along\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">with the men, is shown to have been prepared by the teachings of Jesus to accept and believe in his death when the other disciples did not yet understand. Jesus said that her work of preparing his body for burial would be linked to the gospel and its message throughout the world. This portion will not be taken from her.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Another Mary also received her portion of the gospel on resurrection day.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">John 20:15\u201318 (NASB)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">15 Jesus said to her, \u201cWoman, why are you weeping? Whom are you seeking?\u201d Supposing Him to be the gardener, she said to Him, \u201cSir, if you have carried Him away, tell me where you have laid Him, and I will take Him away.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">16 Jesus said to her, \u201cMary!\u201d She turned and said to Him in Hebrew, \u201cRabboni!\u201d (which means, Teacher).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">17 Jesus said to her, \u201cStop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, \u2018I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.\u2019 \u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">18 Mary Magdalene came, announcing to the disciples, \u201cI have seen the Lord,\u201d and that He had said these things to her.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Mary Magdalene was the first one commissioned to give the gospel to the other disciples and the Lord specifically chose to appear to a woman first.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">But there are those in the church who have made it their own business to<em> take away<\/em> what has been given to women. While women were given the place as disciples sitting and learning at the feet of Jesus, some in the body of Christ deny women the ability to learn the deep things of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">John MacArthur&#8217;s <em><strong><a title=\"John MacArthur's The Master's Seminary\" href=\"http:\/\/www.tms.edu\/\">The Master&#8217;s Seminary<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><\/em>denies women the opportunity to learn. The deep things of God are taken away from women, and<strong> <a title=\"John MacArthur's Seminary will not accept applications from women\" href=\"http:\/\/www.tms.edu\/AdmissionsOverview.aspx\">no opportunity<\/a> <\/strong>is given them to choose to follow the Lord Jesus in this deep learning as women are denied entrance into <strong><a title=\"John MacArthur's Master's Seminary Distinctives\" href=\"http:\/\/www.tms.edu\/AdmissionsTMSDistinctives.aspx\">John MacArthur&#8217;s seminary<\/a><\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Also, complementarians such as Ray Ortlund deny that God gives a calling to women that entrusts them with the gospel. &#8220;<em><strong><a title=\"Ray Ortlund Fulfill your ministry\" href=\"http:\/\/thegospelcoalition.org\/blogs\/rayortlund\/2010\/03\/02\/fulfill-your-ministry\/\">There is a grandeur to every man\u2019s ministry<\/a><\/strong>&#8220;<\/em>, Ortlund says and the gospel ministry that men have been given shows that they &#8220;<em>have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel<\/em>.&#8221; No limitations on men at all as Ortlund says <em>&#8220;I don\u2019t minister for his approval; I minister with his approval.\u00a0 I can <\/em><em>go for it<\/em><em>.\u201d <\/em>But for women, there is no such approval in Ortlund&#8217;s eyes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Is it true that only men have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel? Or have men usurped by force what has also been given to women? The first disciples refused to believe a woman who obeyed the Lord and who declared the gospel to them and today men are tempted to take away a woman&#8217;s portion by closing the door in her face. There are many things that she is not allowed to learn and many places that she is not allowed to go. 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