{"id":189,"date":"2008-01-01T22:47:37","date_gmt":"2008-01-02T05:47:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2008\/01\/01\/the-original-woman-needed-or-needy\/"},"modified":"2008-01-01T22:47:37","modified_gmt":"2008-01-02T05:47:37","slug":"the-original-woman-needed-or-needy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/01\/01\/the-original-woman-needed-or-needy\/","title":{"rendered":"The original woman – needed or needy?"},"content":{"rendered":"

The foundation of the dispute between egalitarians and complementarians is the creation account found in the book of Genesis. How each side views the creation of woman defines the view of woman throughout the rest of scripture.<\/p>\n

Even before God created the woman from the side of the man, God spoke words that define who the woman is and her purpose.<\/p>\n

Genesis 2:18 Then the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable for him.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

There are three things here that stand out.<\/p>\n

1. The man alone is \u201cnot good\u201d.
\n2. The woman was created as a \u201chelper\u201d for man.
\n3. The woman was to be \u201csuitable\u201d for man.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The man\u2019s creation alone is said to be \u201cnot good\u201d out of all of God\u2019s creation. The man had a need that God was going to meet for the man through the creation of the woman. The word \u201chelper\u201d in Hebrew does not suggest a subordinate role, as the NET Bible translator notes say that<\/p>\n

In the Bible God is frequently described as the “helper”, the one who does for us what we cannot do for ourselves, the one who meets our needs. In this context the word seems to express the idea of an “indispensable companion.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The last thing that we can see from God\u2019s words is that the woman is to be \u201csuitable\u201d for man. Again the NET Bible translator notes say:<\/p>\n

The Hebrew expression literally means \u201caccording to the opposite of him.\u201d Translations such as \u201csuitable (for)\u201d (NASB, NIV), \u201cmatching,\u201d \u201ccorresponding to\u201d all capture the idea\u2026The man\u2019s form and nature are matched by the woman\u2019s as she reflects him and complements him. Together they correspond. In short, this prepositional phrase indicates that she has everything that God has invested in him.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The Hebrew word for “suitable” has the meaning of \u201cin front of\u201d as well as “corresponding to”, so we see that the woman was created with everything that God has invested in man plus she has what he doesn\u2019t have so that she is able to provide what he needs, thus in the literal word translation, the verse says:<\/p>\n

And-he-is-saying Yahweh Elohim not good to-be-of the-human to-be-alone-of-him I-shall-make for-him helper as in-front-of-him.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Unfortunately some have taken God\u2019s words and have twisted them to re-define the woman as a needy<\/strong> being instead of the one who meets Adam\u2019s need<\/strong>. How is this re-defining accomplished? Complementarian leaders teach that:<\/p>\n

1. The woman \u201cneeds\u201d<\/strong> a leader who will make decisions on her behalf.
\n2. The woman \u201cneeds\u201d<\/strong> a spiritual leader\/priest who will represent her to God and who will also represent God to her.<\/p>\n

In essence by making the woman a \u201cneedy\u201d human being, if she is without a man to meet these \u201cneeds\u201d a woman would not be able to fulfill her God-given \u201crole\u201d and without a husband or a spiritual leader\/priest to interpret God\u2019s will to her she is not even able to minister fully to other women. This puts women in a secondary or inferior spiritual \u201crole\u201d so that her place of teaching is inferior to the man\u2019s.<\/p>\n

While many complementarians are willing to admit that women are allowed to teach the bible to other women, when this belief is carefully examined, they have to admit that a woman\u2019s teaching is inferior to a man\u2019s teaching. By making a woman \u201cneedy\u201d, some complementarians have gone so far as to teach that a woman can never be the best spiritual mentor even for another woman. John MacArthur teaches that the deepest and greatest spiritual source for a woman will always be a man:<\/p>\n

Click here to hear John MacArthur audio clip #1<\/a><\/p>\n

Her significance in the world is then only through following the man\u2019s divine direction:<\/p>\n

Click here to hear John MacArthur audio clip #2<\/a><\/p>\n

Whether complementarians want to admit it or not, this in essence teaches that a woman is spiritually inferior to a man. She cannot provide the deep spirituality that a man can and a woman who has women mentors is missing something spiritually unless she has a man providing bible teaching to her.<\/p>\n

What this does is leave a woman as needy<\/u> \u2013 needing a man to provide for her spirituality. But this is not biblical. A woman has everything that man has spiritually and nothing is missing. Paul responded to men who thought that women were to be excluded in the giving and receiving of God\u2019s word. Paul said:<\/p>\n

1 Cor. 14:36 What? Was it from you that the word of God went out? Or did it come to you alone?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Paul is saying that the word of God has not come to men alone as the Judaizers taught. Women too are to learn because God\u2019s word is given equally for them. The practice of many Jews to exclude women regarding learning of God’s word is not God’s way. In the same way, Paul says that God\u2019s word did not go out from<\/strong> men only. God has also used women to spread his word speaking through them as prophet, judge and teacher.<\/p>\n

In the next post we will look at the other assertion that says that woman is \u201cneedy\u201d in that she needs a \u201cpriest\u201d in the home to represent her to God.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

The foundation of the dispute between egalitarians and complementarians is the creation account found in the book of Genesis. How each side views the creation of woman defines the view of woman throughout the rest of scripture. Even before God created the woman from the side of the man, God spoke words that define who the woman is and her purpose. Genesis 2:18 Then the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will…<\/p>\n

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