{"id":1864,"date":"2010-02-20T01:24:27","date_gmt":"2010-02-20T08:24:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=1864"},"modified":"2016-09-22T12:54:03","modified_gmt":"2016-09-22T19:54:03","slug":"adam-names-eve","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2010\/02\/20\/adam-names-eve\/","title":{"rendered":"Common Objections to Women in Ministry: Adam names Eve"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><img data-attachment-id=\"1872\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2010\/02\/20\/adam-names-eve\/name\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/name.jpg?fit=303%2C350&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"303,350\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"name on Women in Ministry Blog by Cheryl Schatz\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/name.jpg?fit=259%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/name.jpg?fit=303%2C350&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1872\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/name.jpg?resize=303%2C350\" alt=\"name on Women in Ministry Blog by Cheryl Schatz\" width=\"303\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/name.jpg?w=303&amp;ssl=1 303w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/02\/name.jpg?resize=259%2C300&amp;ssl=1 259w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 303px) 100vw, 303px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/p>\n<h1>The naming of Eve<\/h1>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">One of the positions that complementarians commonly hold is that male and female were created with distinct roles so that one (the male) is said to have been given the authority over the other (the female) and the fact that Adam <\/span>names<span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"> Eve is used as proof of the man&#8217;s authority. \u00a0CMBW (The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood) <strong><a title=\"Bruce Ware's article Summaries of the Egalitarian and Complementarian positions\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cbmw.org\/Resources\/Articles\/Summaries-of-the-Egalitarian-and-Complementarian-Positions\">records it this way<\/a>:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Male and female were created by God as equal in dignity, value, essence and human nature, but also distinct in role whereby the male was given the responsibility of loving\u00a0<strong>authority<\/strong> <strong>over<\/strong> the female, and the female was to offer willing, glad-hearted and submissive assistance to the man.\u00a0Gen. 1:26-27\u00a0makes clear that male and female are equally created as God&#8217;s image, and so are, by God&#8217;s created design, equally and fully human. But, as Gen. 2 bears out (as seen in its own context and as understood by Paul in 1 Cor. 11 and 1 Tim. 2), their humanity would find expression differently, in a relationship of complementarity, with the female functioning in a submissive role under the leadership and\u00a0<strong>authority<\/strong> of the male.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">CBMW&#8217;s statement of their position says that Genesis 2 as viewed in its own context will show Adam&#8217;s authority over Eve as God&#8217;s original design, and this is borne out in the act of Adam naming Eve. \u00a0Let&#8217;s have a close look at the context of Genesis 1-3 to see where Adam could have been given authority over Eve.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">In my post on February 17th on\u00a0<strong><a title=\"God's design in Genesis: Common Objections to Women in Ministry\" href=\"http:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2010\/02\/17\/gods-design-in-genesis\/\">Common Objections to Women in Ministry: God&#8217;s Design in Genesis<\/a> <span style=\"font-weight: normal;\" data-mce-mark=\"1\">we saw that Adam and Eve were given equal authority over all of God&#8217;s creation in the land, air and the sea. \u00a0If God had wanted to add to Adam&#8217;s authority the responsibility to a rule over the woman, Genesis 1 would have been a perfect place to list that authority, but God never gives Adam an authority over his wife in the original design. \u00a0The authority of rulership for Adam is clearly over animals and the earth, not people. \u00a0So if God did not give authority for Adam to rule Eve in the original creation, when is God supposed to have given him that authority? \u00a0Let&#8217;s look to Genesis chapter 2 for any evidence of an added authority given to Adam.<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><!--more-->Genesis 2:22 (NASB) \u00a0The LORD God fashioned into a woman the rib which He had taken from the man, and brought her to the man.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Adam&#8217;s exclamation of joy in verse 23 when he first set eyes on the woman is a declaration that she is <strong><em>from him<\/em><\/strong> as the\u00a0flesh of his flesh, but where are there any words from God determining a &#8220;role&#8221; of authority for the man that would set him up as her ruler? \u00a0We do see Adam calling her &#8220;woman&#8221; but is this taking authority over her? \u00a0It can&#8217;t be. \u00a0For one thing, Adam was not the origin of the term woman. \u00a0God had called her woman before Adam did. \u00a0Adam merely accepted her and affirmed her origin as being from him. \u00a0God did not give Adam authority over her, and we cannot assign an authority without God first giving that authority. \u00a0To assume such an authority without God&#8217;s permission is a very dangerous thing to do.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Genesis 2:23 (NASB) \u00a0The man said,\u00a0\u201cThis is now bone of my bones,\u00a0And flesh of my flesh;\u00a0She shall be called Woman,\u00a0Because she was taken out of Man.\u201d<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Notice again that God never said that He gave the man authority to rule the woman nor did God direct the man to &#8220;name&#8221; her as a way to take his authority over her. \u00a0The fact that God had already called her woman in verse 22 also reveals that God did not give any directive for Adam to exercise his own authority over her. She was already identified as a woman\u00a0by God, and she was accepted as such by Adam himself.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">But what about after sin entered the world? \u00a0Did God give the man the authority to rule the woman then? \u00a0What did God say to the man after Adam admitted that he ate the fruit?<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Genesis 3:17 (NASB) \u00a0Then to Adam He said, \u201cBecause you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, \u2018You shall not eat from it\u2019;\u00a0Cursed is the ground because of you;\u00a0In toil you will eat of it\u00a0All the days of your life.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Notice that God<strong><em> doesn&#8217;t<\/em><\/strong> say that &#8220;Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, I am giving you authority over her.&#8221; \u00a0Adam did not take authority over the serpent in the garden when the serpent was deceiving his wife and God certainly did not give additional authority to Adam in his sinful state. \u00a0But Adam does name his wife &#8220;Eve&#8221; in verse 20. Is this proof that Adam had authority given him by God that is never <strong><em>directly<\/em><\/strong> listed in the Scripture?<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Genesis 3:20 (NASB) \u00a0Now the man called his wife\u2019s name Eve, because she was the mother of all the living.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Although CBMW would like us to believe that this was evidence of Adam&#8217;s authority over Eve, this is only their assumption since the Bible is silent on any authority given<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">\u00a0to Adam by God that would<strong><em> allow him<\/em><\/strong> to be her ruler. \u00a0God <strong><em>never<\/em><\/strong> gave Adam an authority over Eve. \u00a0While it is possible that naming Eve was part of Adam&#8217;s sinful rule over her, the act of &#8220;naming&#8221; is shown in Scripture as a means to identify the\u00a0character, identify rights of inheritance and for prophetic reasons. Isaiah&#8217;s son, for example, was named for a prophetic event.<\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Isaiah 8:3\u20134 (NASB)<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">3 So I approached the prophetess, and she conceived and gave birth to a son. Then the LORD said to me, \u201cName him Maher-shalal-hash-baz;<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">4 for before the boy knows how to cry out \u2018My father\u2019 or \u2018My mother,\u2019 the wealth of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria will be carried away before the king of Assyria.\u201d<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">People were also given new names to signify the new life or character given them.<\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Genesis 17:5 (NASB95) \u00a0\u201cNo longer shall your name be called Abram,\u00a0But your name shall be Abraham;\u00a0<strong><em>For<\/em><\/strong> I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Abraham&#8217;s name was changed not to show God&#8217;s authority over him but to show that Abram now possessed a prophetic promise from God. \u00a0God said your name shall be&#8230;.FOR (or because). \u00a0Names had significance, and that is why they were given.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Now I would like to ask complementarians to prove their belief that Genesis 1-3 affirms that God gave Adam an authority over his wife to rule her. Please prove this assertion from the\u00a0Scripture.<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">CBMW continues:<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">4) Adam&#8217;s naming of Eve indicates, in an OT cultural context, Adam&#8217;s right of authority over the one whom he named. And interestingly, Adam named his wife twice, first when she was formed from his flesh (2:23), and second after they had both sinned (3:20), indicating that his rightful authority over her continued after sin had come.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">No, this is not true. \u00a0Naming someone does not prove the &#8220;rightful&#8221; authority over them. \u00a0Let complementarians prove Adam&#8217;s &#8220;rightful&#8221; authority over Eve in the words of God in Genesis. \u00a0Where did God give Adam this right? \u00a0Where is this authority determined by God as a design that He placed within man at his creation?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">The fact is that this revision of the historical account is once again necessary to bolster the complementarians claim that only men are allowed to use their spiritual gifts in the church for the common good. \u00a0Once they can claim a non-existent authority, in the beginning, they can claim anything they want because of that &#8220;authority.&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Are we going to accept<strong><em> another<\/em><\/strong> historical revision or are we going to challenge complementarians to prove their claim that Adam received authority to rule the woman? \u00a0Where is this authority given to Adam anywhere in the text? \u00a0If this claim cannot be pointed out in the text, then it is time to challenge complementarians to get back to the beginning and rethink their doctrine.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Thoughts?<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The naming of Eve One of the positions that complementarians commonly hold is that male and female were created with distinct roles so that one (the male) is said to have been given the authority over the other (the female) and the fact that Adam names Eve is used as proof of the man&#8217;s authority. \u00a0CMBW (The Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood) records it this way: Male and female were created by God as equal in dignity, value, essence&#8230;<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"><a class=\"btn btn-default\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2010\/02\/20\/adam-names-eve\/\"> Read More<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  Read More<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":[]},"categories":[87,10,24,31,42,49,67],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.2.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Common Objections to Women in Ministry: Adam names Eve - Women in Ministry<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Did Adam have authority over Eve in creation? 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In Mr. Slick\u2019s article, he takes the position that God had different roles for the man and the woman right from the beginning.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;In the beginning - Genesis&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":249,"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/06\/19\/was-the-man-given-authority-to-rule-the-woman\/","url_meta":{"origin":1864,"position":4},"title":"Was the man given authority to rule the woman?","date":"June 19, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"This is the fifth and final response to Matt Slick\u2019s article called Genesis 2, Adam and Eve, and Authority Matt quotes Matthew Henry who said: \"They [women] must be silent, submissive, and subject, and not usurp authority. The reason given is because Adam was first formed, then Eve out of\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;1 Timothy 2&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":90,"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2007\/03\/08\/is-adam-the-representative-head-of-the-human-race\/","url_meta":{"origin":1864,"position":5},"title":"Is Adam the representative head of the human race?","date":"March 8, 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"Those who believe that God created a hierarchical relationship between men and women will usually state that God created Adam as the \"federal head\" of the human race. This \"federal headship\" is said to be not only physical in that all of humanity has its origin in Adam, but spiritual\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Adam and headship&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]}],"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1864"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1864"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1864\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3268,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1864\/revisions\/3268"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1864"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1864"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1864"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}