{"id":174,"date":"2007-10-03T21:46:59","date_gmt":"2007-10-04T04:46:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2007\/10\/03\/carm-alert-grace-in-action\/"},"modified":"2007-10-03T21:46:59","modified_gmt":"2007-10-04T04:46:59","slug":"carm-alert-grace-in-action","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2007\/10\/03\/carm-alert-grace-in-action\/","title":{"rendered":"CARM alert &#8211; grace in action"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I got an email from Matt Slick today.  In addition to saying that I misrepresented him (he said I was claiming that he believes I am unsaved!  I know he calls me a heretic, but I didn&#8217;t hear him say that I was an <strong>unsaved<\/strong> heretic)  \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p>Matt stated:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>you ARE in error&#8230;and your helping the church adopt your error.<\/p>\n<p>and&#8230;i have no intention of having you back on the radio.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>He also offered to debate me on Paltalk which I would consider if I knew if there was a fair way to have such a debate without Matt turning the debate into an attack session or having him control the mike.  At this point I don&#8217;t think it would be possible, but I am open if I could figure out what I am doing.<\/p>\n<p>The reason for this post is to call attention to a very gracious response to Matt that I found a link to on Wade Burleson&#8217;s blog.  It is from a fellow Christian who has a blog called Voyage Blog and his name is David <span>McLaughlin.  Today he wrote a post<\/span> called <a href=\"http:\/\/voyageministries.blogspot.com\/2007\/10\/carm-watch-update.html\" target=\"_blank\"><strong>Carm Watch Update<\/strong><\/a>.  David&#8217;s original post on the second debate <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/voyageministries.blogspot.com\/2007\/10\/carm-watch.html\" target=\"_blank\">between Matt and myself is here<\/a><\/strong>.   I want to call attention to this blog and these two posts because of David&#8217;s gracious response.  Even while pointing out error and wrong attitudes, David manages to keep a gracious attitude and I think he should be commended for the spirit that he showed.  I also greatly appreciate him defending his sister in Christ!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got an email from Matt Slick today. In addition to saying that I misrepresented him (he said I was claiming that he believes I am unsaved! 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