{"id":164,"date":"2007-09-19T22:05:36","date_gmt":"2007-09-20T05:05:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/2007\/09\/19\/debate-audio-between-matt-slick-and-cheryl-schatz\/"},"modified":"2017-06-18T20:33:11","modified_gmt":"2017-06-19T03:33:11","slug":"debate-audio-between-matt-slick-and-cheryl-schatz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2007\/09\/19\/debate-audio-between-matt-slick-and-cheryl-schatz\/","title":{"rendered":"Debate audio between Matt Slick and Cheryl Schatz"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hey all,<\/p>\n<p>If you didn&#8217;t get a chance to hear the debate regarding women Pastors between Matt Slick of CARM and myself, you can hear it <a href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/Matt_Slick_Cheryl_Schatz_1a.mp3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>at this link<\/strong><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The next debate is scheduled for Wednesday, September 26th.\u00a0 The topic on that debate will be how do we know that the woman of 1 Timothy 2:12 is a specific woman in the Ephesus congregation and why is the reason for stopping her tied into the creation of Adam and Eve?\u00a0 It should be another hot debate.<\/p>\n<p>As far as Matt&#8217;s treatment of me tonight &#8211; I did not take any offense by his words. \u00a0 I believe that he is deceived in this issue and so I am willing to cut him a lot of slack because of this.\u00a0 I consider it a privilege to be able to say even one thing that will help women to be set free in Christ to celebrate their gifts and use them for God&#8217;s glory by benefiting both men and women in the body of Christ.<\/p>\n<p>Any thoughts on this debate?\u00a0 I am going to copy teknomom&#8217;s summary of this debate that she posted previous to my putting up this post.<\/p>\n<p>(Additional note May 2009: Even though I tried my hardest to treat him with respect during the two radio appearances I had with him, he has publicly denounced me as the one who was attacking him.\u00a0 Since that time he started many posts on his discussion board attacking my person and calling me a heretic and he allowed his vice-president Diane Sellner to call me names and to even question my sanity and all this because I accepted an invitation to talk about women in ministry.\u00a0 I tried my best to get resolution to the misrepresentation and the name calling and my report on the Matthew 18 meeting I had with Matt Slick in August 2008 is found <a title=\"PUblic statement regarding Matt Slick and Matthew 18 meeting\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2008\/09\/06\/public-statement-regarding-matt-slick\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>here<\/strong><\/a>.)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hey all, If you didn&#8217;t get a chance to hear the debate regarding women Pastors between Matt Slick of CARM and myself, you can hear it at this link. 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