{"id":1246,"date":"2009-07-24T20:59:39","date_gmt":"2009-07-25T03:59:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/strivetoenter.com\/wim\/?p=1246"},"modified":"2016-12-06T18:39:06","modified_gmt":"2016-12-07T01:39:06","slug":"new-debate-seaver-schatz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/","title":{"rendered":"New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>New debate\u00a0with Mike Seaver<\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">Stay tuned to this blog for a discussion\/debate between Mike Seaver and myself starting on Monday, July 27th, 2009.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\"><img data-attachment-id=\"1247\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/mike_seaver\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/mike_seaver.jpg?fit=240%2C180&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"240,180\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"mike_seaver\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/mike_seaver.jpg?fit=240%2C180&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/mike_seaver.jpg?fit=240%2C180&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-1247\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/mike_seaver.jpg?resize=240%2C180\" alt=\"mike_seaver\" width=\"240\" height=\"180\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">I have been in email contact with Mike Seaver in a very cordial way over the issue of women in ministry and he has agreed to discuss this issue with me publicly on both my blog and <strong><a title=\"Mike Seaver blog Role Calling\" href=\"http:\/\/rolecalling.blogspot.com\" target=\"_blank\">Mike&#8217;s blog<\/a><\/strong> simultaneously.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">I have posed 5 sets of questions to Mike and he has posed 5 questions to me. \u00a0My first question to Mike and his answer will go online on July 27th. \u00a0Two days after that we will both post my response to his answer and Mike&#8217;s concluding response. \u00a0Both of our blogs will be open for comments and you may want to check out both of our blogs for comments as I am sure that Mike has a different audience than I do.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 12pt;\">So far our discussions have been respectful and I think the back and forth discussion between Mike and I may be helpful for many to see both sides of the issue from a complementarian and an egalitarian who both love the Lord Jesus. \u00a0Our discussion\/debate will be passionate but respectful.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>New debate\u00a0with Mike Seaver Stay tuned to this blog for a discussion\/debate between Mike Seaver and myself starting on Monday, July 27th, 2009. I have been in email contact with Mike Seaver in a very cordial way over the issue of women in ministry and he has agreed to discuss this issue with me publicly on both my blog and Mike&#8217;s blog simultaneously. I have posed 5 sets of questions to Mike and he has posed 5 questions to me&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p class=\"read-more\"><a class=\"btn btn-default\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/\"> Read More<span class=\"screen-reader-text\">  Read More<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":[]},"categories":[30,31],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v20.2.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009 - Women in Ministry<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009 - Women in Ministry\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"New debate\u00a0with Mike Seaver Stay tuned to this blog for a discussion\/debate between Mike Seaver and myself starting on Monday, July 27th, 2009. I have been in email contact with Mike Seaver in a very cordial way over the issue of women in ministry and he has agreed to discuss this issue with me publicly on both my blog and Mike&#8217;s blog simultaneously. I have posed 5 sets of questions to Mike and he has posed 5 questions to me.... Read More Read More\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Women in Ministry\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2009-07-25T03:59:39+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2016-12-07T01:39:06+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"http:\/\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/mike_seaver.jpg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Cheryl Schatz\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Written by\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Cheryl Schatz\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Est. reading time\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"1 minute\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/\",\"name\":\"New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009 - Women in Ministry\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2009-07-25T03:59:39+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2016-12-07T01:39:06+00:00\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#\/schema\/person\/d7a33503fddaf9e8c392972b2801441a\"},\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/\",\"name\":\"Women in Ministry\",\"description\":\"This blog is for dialogue on the issue of women in ministry and the freedom for women to teach the bible in a public setting. It is also for questions and answers on our DVD entitled \u201cWomen in Ministry: Silenced or Set Free?\u201d This 4 DVD set answers the hard passages of scripture that seem to restrict women\u2019s ministry.\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"SearchAction\",\"target\":{\"@type\":\"EntryPoint\",\"urlTemplate\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/?s={search_term_string}\"},\"query-input\":\"required name=search_term_string\"}],\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#\/schema\/person\/d7a33503fddaf9e8c392972b2801441a\",\"name\":\"Cheryl Schatz\",\"image\":{\"@type\":\"ImageObject\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/7e19c4eee7accb8e3a07173a2c17c808?s=96&d=identicon&r=g\",\"contentUrl\":\"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/7e19c4eee7accb8e3a07173a2c17c808?s=96&d=identicon&r=g\",\"caption\":\"Cheryl Schatz\"},\"url\":\"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/author\/cheryl-schatz\/\"}]}<\/script>\n<!-- \/ Yoast SEO plugin. -->","yoast_head_json":{"title":"New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009 - Women in Ministry","robots":{"index":"index","follow":"follow","max-snippet":"max-snippet:-1","max-image-preview":"max-image-preview:large","max-video-preview":"max-video-preview:-1"},"canonical":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/","og_locale":"en_US","og_type":"article","og_title":"New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009 - Women in Ministry","og_description":"New debate\u00a0with Mike Seaver Stay tuned to this blog for a discussion\/debate between Mike Seaver and myself starting on Monday, July 27th, 2009. I have been in email contact with Mike Seaver in a very cordial way over the issue of women in ministry and he has agreed to discuss this issue with me publicly on both my blog and Mike&#8217;s blog simultaneously. I have posed 5 sets of questions to Mike and he has posed 5 questions to me.... Read More Read More","og_url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/","og_site_name":"Women in Ministry","article_published_time":"2009-07-25T03:59:39+00:00","article_modified_time":"2016-12-07T01:39:06+00:00","og_image":[{"url":"http:\/\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/mike_seaver.jpg"}],"author":"Cheryl Schatz","twitter_card":"summary_large_image","twitter_misc":{"Written by":"Cheryl Schatz","Est. reading time":"1 minute"},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/","url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/","name":"New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009 - Women in Ministry","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#website"},"datePublished":"2009-07-25T03:59:39+00:00","dateModified":"2016-12-07T01:39:06+00:00","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#\/schema\/person\/d7a33503fddaf9e8c392972b2801441a"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/#breadcrumb"},"inLanguage":"en-US","potentialAction":[{"@type":"ReadAction","target":["https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/"]}]},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/24\/new-debate-seaver-schatz\/#breadcrumb","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/"},{"@type":"ListItem","position":2,"name":"New debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on July 27, 2009"}]},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#website","url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/","name":"Women in Ministry","description":"This blog is for dialogue on the issue of women in ministry and the freedom for women to teach the bible in a public setting. It is also for questions and answers on our DVD entitled \u201cWomen in Ministry: Silenced or Set Free?\u201d This 4 DVD set answers the hard passages of scripture that seem to restrict women\u2019s ministry.","potentialAction":[{"@type":"SearchAction","target":{"@type":"EntryPoint","urlTemplate":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/?s={search_term_string}"},"query-input":"required name=search_term_string"}],"inLanguage":"en-US"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#\/schema\/person\/d7a33503fddaf9e8c392972b2801441a","name":"Cheryl Schatz","image":{"@type":"ImageObject","inLanguage":"en-US","@id":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/#\/schema\/person\/image\/","url":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/7e19c4eee7accb8e3a07173a2c17c808?s=96&d=identicon&r=g","contentUrl":"https:\/\/secure.gravatar.com\/avatar\/7e19c4eee7accb8e3a07173a2c17c808?s=96&d=identicon&r=g","caption":"Cheryl Schatz"},"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/author\/cheryl-schatz\/"}]}},"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p30ZFw-k6","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1333,"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/08\/17\/mike-seaver-cheryl-schatz-5\/","url_meta":{"origin":1246,"position":0},"title":"Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz discuss\/debate women in ministry 5","date":"August 17, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"\u00a0 Are Men Restricted? This is question #3 of a 10 question debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. \u00a0The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five questions posed by\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;1 Timothy 2&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"Are men restricted? Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz discussion\/debate on women in ministry","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/men_restricted1.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":1281,"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/08\/24\/mike-seaver-and-cheryl-schatz-7\/","url_meta":{"origin":1246,"position":1},"title":"Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz discuss\/debate women in ministry 7","date":"August 24, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Women in Ministry Debate: What authority do men have to restrict women's gifts? This is question #4 of a 10 question discussion\/debate between\u00a0Mike Seaverand Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. \u00a0The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;1 Corinthians 14&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/women_silence2.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":1285,"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/08\/31\/mike-seaver-and-cheryl-schatz-9\/","url_meta":{"origin":1246,"position":2},"title":"Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz discuss\/debate women in ministry 9","date":"August 31, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Women in Ministry Debate - Does God Contradict Himself? This is question #5 of a 10 question discussion\/debate between\u00a0Mike Seaver and\u00a0Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. \u00a0The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;1 Corinthians 11&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/contradiction.jpg?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":1225,"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/08\/03\/mike-seaver-and-cheryl-schatz-3\/","url_meta":{"origin":1246,"position":3},"title":"Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz discuss\/debate women in ministry 3","date":"August 3, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Is there a Second Witness that forbids Christian women from teaching the Bible to men? This is question #2 of a 10 question discussion\/debate between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. \u00a0The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;1 Timothy 2&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/witness3.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":1209,"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/07\/27\/mike-seaver-and-cheryl-schatz-1\/","url_meta":{"origin":1246,"position":4},"title":"Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz discuss\/debate women in ministry 1","date":"July 27, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Building Bridges on the Women in Ministry debate Today is the first post of a discussion between Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz on the issue of women in ministry. \u00a0The discussion will take the form of five questions posed by Cheryl Schatz with answers by Mike Seaver and then five\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;1 Corinthians 14&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"building-bridges on Women in Ministry blog by Cheryl Schatz","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/building-bridges.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]},{"id":1279,"url":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/2009\/08\/19\/mike-seaver-and-cheryl-schatz-debate-6\/","url_meta":{"origin":1246,"position":5},"title":"Mike Seaver and Cheryl Schatz discuss\/debate women in ministry 6","date":"August 19, 2009","format":false,"excerpt":"Who's the Boss? In the last blog post Cheryl Schatz posed her third set of questions to Mike Seaver regarding their debate on women in ministry. Links to all the previous questions and responses is at the end of this post. \u00a0This discussion will be Cheryl's response to Mike's answers\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;1 Corinthians 14&quot;","img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/men-bible.jpg?resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200},"classes":[]}],"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1246"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1246"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1246\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3358,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1246\/revisions\/3358"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1246"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1246"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mmoutreach.org\/wim\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1246"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}